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Do you track your finances / budget?

If so, do you use an app for it or prefer manually in Excel?

If the former: which app? What do you like about it and what can't you stand?

If manual: What insights are you trying to gather? How have you duct-taped your own solution?

on March 11, 2021
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    I use excel (Google sheet) and mint. Mint is good but I have too many bank account and some bank don't sync properly so sometimes what I want to see is unreadable and difficult to sort.

    I would love to have an app that syncs but let you do history and comparation between month. Google sheet let me compare month by month year by year per account or category.

    The apps are too complicated to make the same view.

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      Hey diealvarado - thanks for sharing! What insights are you looking to gather by comparing month by month or year by year? Any custom comparison logic you have in your google sheets right now?

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    Oh man I track stuff DILIGENTLY!

    I'm currently using an app called Money Lover yet I also manually copy over data into Excel every ~6ish months (this is for a. backup purposes, and b. accounts reconciliation).

    I don't really recommend Money Lover due to a number of reasons:

    1. Categories aren't shared amongst wallets so, for example, if I create an expense category in "Cash" called "Gasoline", I'll have to manually create that category in "Bank" as well (this isn't really a problem for me any more since I've been using the app for a few years now and have all categories in place).
    2. The CSV export function in the app is super buggy - items aren't always exported properly and metadata e.g. notes in transactions, will frequently mess up which is why I almost always have to do stuff manually (this is despite the fact that CSV Export is a premium option).
    3. Running Budgets are not implemented very effectively so I need to manually set up and tweak the budget settings to get it to work.
    4. Transferring is not straightforward e.g. if I withdraw money from an ATM, I have to manually configure a "transfer" from the "Bank" to the "Cash" account.
    5. Debts/Loans can't easily be paid off through different accounts and pieces e.g. if I lend someone cash and they pay me back via a bank transfer, I'll have to account for that by myself.

    Now I understand that a lot of these issues would be solved if I sync my bank account to the app directly but, unfortunately, banks in my country don't offer that luxury 😢.

    Now the good stuff:

    1. Money Lover has apps as well as a Web version which is very important to me as I frequently access the service from different places.
    2. Very good at reminders and recurring transactions.
    3. Nice detailed reports allowing me to drill down by dates, categories, transactions, notes and so on.

    Literally the only reason I use this app is because the 1st time I searched in the Play Store this app was #1 so I picked it but I'm ACTIVELY searching for alternatives (that's another reason I keep an up-to-date Excel sheet so I can import the history).

    In terms of insights, it helps to be able to realize what my expenses are as it helps to budget if you look at the data. For example, I once realized that I was spending a lot of money on eating out even though individually the events were pocket change yet added up, it was a large chunk of my expenses. Insights like that are helpful for sure.

    Hope this helps you.

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      Incredibly helpful, xmok. Which country are you from - out of curiosity? :)

      Debts/Loans can't easily be paid off through different accounts and pieces e.g. if I lend someone cash and they pay me back via a bank transfer, I'll have to account for that by myself.

      Interesting... Can you do that in the app UI? Or what's where the Excel reconciliation comes into play? Are most of these debts/loans on a personal basis or does it also apply to home loans or something like that?

      Running Budgets are not implemented very effectively
      Mind elaborating on this?

      Besides the portability, do you have any equations / custom logic within this excel to analyze the reports?

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        Debts and Loans

        • If the repayment or debt collection is from the same wallet e.g. loaned out and received in "Cash" then it's pretty straightforward in the app UI because I can just select an outstanding loan/repayment and the numbers are automatically filled in.
        • If the wallets are different e.g. loaned out through Cash and received via Bank A, then it's less straightforward: I have to manually find the transaction in history, select it, and then there is an extra option called "Cashback" with advanced options but it's really not intuitive and I figured it out only recently despite using the app for a few years 😅.
        • As for the loans, it's mostly personal loans.

        Running Budgets
        This is difficult to explain because until you use the app for a while, you won't really be able to understand the nuances. On the face of it, budgeting is fine but it's the little things like:

        • bugs when time periods are not straightforward
        • weird synchronization if there are events
        • no real indication of budget when adding transactions until you check manually

        and so on. Like I said, it's Quality of Life stuff one notices over a long period of usage.

        Custom Logic
        Oh for sure! The finances Excel Sheets (plural) are part of a Master Excel Workbook I use to track plenty of items in my life so the information is synced with other items like vehicle expenses, education, master budgets, etc. For reporting, Money Lover is very good and that's definitely one major plus point.

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    You can try Microsoft money. Microsoft gave for free its last version when they stopped this product. They called it Microsoft sunset edition. It has everything, bank accounts, credit cards, investing, reports, categories, forecasts. Suitable for both personal finances and for small business finances.
    Only problem: It runs only on Windows.