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Idea validation for automated marketing app

I have decided to revisit an old idea I had about building an automated marketing system. I did work on a prototype a few years ago and stopped when I realized that such a business was too complex to run as a side business for one person.

Even though it still is, I came to the conclusion that if I change the business model a little, I could pull it off.

The new model is that I will provide the engine as a free open source plugin to Ruby on Rails (to start with) and just host the UI for creating segmentation rules, setting up flows, managing email templates etc.

The pros as I see it are:

  • That all user data stays at the clients apps. They own it and that requires less security on my side.

  • Since I just host the UX, It will be cheaper to run.

The risks are:

  • Someone will copy my engine and create a competing frontend

  • People doesnt want to self host this at all

So, what I ask the community are if anyone has build something with similar business model and technical solution and have some insights, questions or comments.

on October 30, 2019
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    Definitely reduces a lot of overhead for you but do you know if marketers will welcome such a tech savvy solution?

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      At least where I work, they wouldn't know. We developers have made it easy for them by handling the complex part of syncing the data to their email marketing system.

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        So I guess you'll have to figure out who you are going to sell to - 1) Tech savvy marketers or 2) Developers who want to quickly setup a stack for their marketing team.

        Might become tricky, but definitely a great idea from a time to market standpoint.

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    The question I would have is how do you differentiate against Active Campaign, Mailchimp etc?

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      Not sure how Active Campaign works. Do they work without managing user data on their servers? Otherwise that would be the differentiator.

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        Active Campaign does require that you push your list to them. If the system is built around email, who would be responsible for deliverability?

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    It's an intriguing idea, and something I've thought about in similar forms. Concerns I had which prevented me from pursuing it:

    1. It would have to be incredibly easy to install in order for a user to justify using it, rather than just hacking together their own solution.
    2. The biggest competition is probably in companies like Mailchimp who are building an end-to-end solution (hosted by them).
    3. Limiting it to one specific stack will also limit your audience, so you'd need to support multiple platforms: WordPress, Flask, RoR, etc
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      Yes, I already have the code for RoR. So that would be the start. My second language is Elixor so Phoenix Framework would be next, but the market is way smaller. I would need to hire someone to do Django/Flask and Wordpress further down the line.
      Im also thinking I could create a Rails application in a Docket container with an easy installer.