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Investors swarming!

Over the years, we've had the odd contact from potential VCs or investors every few months, but this month, we've got a handful of solid "let's talk some serious opportunity" in the space of a couple of weeks.

We've done nothing different - just pottering along as we always have. Never reached out to anyone or put the vibes out there. I am intrigued as to why so many in such a short space of time?

Other Indie Hackers that have gone down this road before - does it normally happen like this?? Has anything changed in the VC/investment landscape recently that might have triggered this that I am not aware of?? I assumed that with COVID and lockdowns and impending elections etc., that most people would have their purse strings pulled tight, but the opposite seems to be the case.

For the record, I really don't know yet if we will pursue any of these avenues. We are just having too much fun building this startup, and I think it has potential to be way bigger and make a much more attractive investment target in a couple of years, but who knows - if the right person talks to us with the right strategy, it could get interesting.

on October 8, 2020
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    They're everywhere. This is the first time I'm part of running a startup so fairly new to all this but I'm starting to consider investors like those people that do cold outreach asking for links and guest posts. Most site owners are very familiar with those requests that never stop.

    With Plausible Analytics we're very clear on our social media and our website (including our about page) that we're not looking for investors, but we still keep getting requests via email and social media messages.

    We've never replied to any but some of them do mention how they find us. I've seen them mention Product Hunt, Hacker News and GitHub among others. Some also mention why they reach out to us and this includes signals such as people posting great reviews about us.

    Gives me a new view on investors. Seems like they're looking for something with a bit of traction to make their job easier I guess.

    EDIT: Got another one now. And I never even replied to their original one! And they sent it to two different personal email addresses I have. Just like the guest post requests :) "I just wanted to follow-up on XXXXX's previous email and arrange a zoom call (30 - 45 mins.) when you have a moment. Would Nov. 3 at 13:15 UK Time work for you at all?"

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      Yes, it is quite a change to think about them doing hustling for their financial businesses similar to what we do for our startups.

      By the way - big fan of Plausible. We've even included it as an optional analytics tool that people can integrate with the job board on our HR SaaS... (https://workplace.hrpartner.io/more-enhancements-to-recruitment/)

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        that's nice to hear, thank you Devan!

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    Great question - I've raised a few $M from VCs and have seen some inside baseball.

    What's probably happening:

    • VCs have investment associates who have little, if any, power to write checks. Investment associates are either out of college / recent MBAs and typically spend their time networking around to find the cool new thing. They go to startup events but also cold email a bunch of companies they find interesting.
    • If an investment associate emails you, either (1) they find your company interesting but have virtually no sway to get a deal done, (2) they're doing competitive/market intel for another deal they're considering, or (3) they're trying to get a perspective on a niche for their personal investment thesis.
    • It's not always a waste of time to talk to them... but it usually is. You can always ask for referrals to people who'd buy your software. Or have them email their portcos about you.
    • If it's a top-tier VC investment associate, would talk with them - they'll have a good network and could tweet about you & get you customers. At very least.

    Now, if you have partners emailing you, that's different. There actually might be investment interest. But, watch out because there are a TON of VCs out there, some are small & new with very little raised.

    On your question of "why are they deploying capital mid-pandemic"... they've got $MMM of capital committed, and the world's going topsy turvy, it's a great time to invest.

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      Superb answer Rob. I really appreciate your 'insider' viewpoint on this!

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    We've been getting more inquiries like this too recently.

    I suspect most aren't real investors, but rather folks looking to flip online assets through the various online marketplaces like Flippa, etc.

    I always do a couple quick checks on the inquiries:

    1. Are they using a public email or private/business? If public (i.e. gmail), they're likely not a serious investor.
    2. Do they include a website, phone number, etc.?
    3. If website, how much detail is there on the website about the business and the principles? When was the domain registered?
    4. Google the person's name to see what I can find

    If you're really interested in selling one of your online assets, there are plenty of places you can go to do that, without having an additional middleman.

    Also, if you're interested in this space, be sure to check out the https://www.indiehackers.com/group/website-investing IH group, managed by @Dealsflow

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      Thanks for your tips Mike, as well as the link to that IH group. I wasn't sure which group to post my query to, but that one sounds interesting.

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    Probably because you hit $10K MRR recently. Lots of investors follow companies and then reach out when they hit a certain scale because then the investment is de-risked.

    I wouldn't be surprised if there is a service that scrapes revenue numbers from IH and then notifies VCs when the company/product hits a certain threshold.

    Keep on building!

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      Thanks Steven - yes, I had forgotten that some of our metrics are semi-public and that might have piqued the interest of some VCs.

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    Also COVID situation seems to VC as opportunity, like "those founders are low on cash, let's grab big share while they are"

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    Agree, always people reaching out.

    Their emails always state how their fund is XXX millions and they invest minimum Y million in early stage startups.

    For the most part conversations fizzle out I find.

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      Thanks Alex! Good to know.

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    I got one enquiry this week. It's not uncommon for people (some times lazily) cold emailing people found via IH.

    I wonder if it was the same company that contacted you. 🤔

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      Thanks Rosie. I believe one (maybe two) was from here. The rest seems to be outside of the IH community, but I will try and do more research as to how they found us.

      I'm not complaining, but it is weird how it was all at once, and now we have meetings scheduled with them over many days. It can be a bit distracting from just running our startup though...

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    Making a lot of money always has a lot of consequences. You put a lot of energy and effort into your projects and the next you have a heart attack from too much stressing out. So why even bothering doing something knowing that something like that can happen to anyone. So, I think we need to hire a trust attorney in NYC - Ilona Shtark, so you could at least trust all your real estate to the people you love and care about.

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      Interesting. So far, most of the approaches have been really friendly and low pressure, but I shall keep an eye out for any 'car salesman' vibes when we talk to them.